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		By: Michael Storer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Storer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.storerboatplans.com/boat-design/michael-storer-biography-how-i-got-started/#comment-2268&quot;&gt;Dan Pedersen&lt;/a&gt;.

I think that a lot of what is though of as a &quot;compromise&quot; is because people are not thinking about what they really need.

A good designer will get rid of what is not useful in the design - the job is to remove the unecessary and make the necessary as good as possible.

I also think a good designer should refuse to design boats that are highly compromised, no matter how much the customer might think that they want them.

I completely agree about plywood and instant boats being a great way to get on the water ... NOW!

Best wishes
Michael]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.storerboatplans.com/boat-design/michael-storer-biography-how-i-got-started/#comment-2268">Dan Pedersen</a>.</p>
<p>I think that a lot of what is though of as a &#8220;compromise&#8221; is because people are not thinking about what they really need.</p>
<p>A good designer will get rid of what is not useful in the design &#8211; the job is to remove the unecessary and make the necessary as good as possible.</p>
<p>I also think a good designer should refuse to design boats that are highly compromised, no matter how much the customer might think that they want them.</p>
<p>I completely agree about plywood and instant boats being a great way to get on the water &#8230; NOW!</p>
<p>Best wishes<br />
Michael</p>
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		By: Dan Pedersen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Pedersen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All boat designs is a compromise. 

Some wants a fast ski boat others a holiday mansion. Some wants both. Its just not practical to tow waterskies after a big catamaran. 

When thats said, Its a compromise that takes years to figure out. And when you do, Life has taken a turn and you whant something else, More kids more space, Kids grown and you would like something smaller. You cant plan more than ten years ahead so why bother. 

The most important thing for me is. Do i want to built for the next generation ore do i want to build for my self. Do i want to build something that can recoup my money, Ore just something quick and inexpensiv. I do now that it can be beautiful as well. High on my wish list is a big window, Caouse when you sit in your chair and looking out your window, The only boat you can see is the one passing you. 

I do love building boats, I just prefer sailing. So its a nobrainer :) Plywood and instant boatbuilding. Se you all out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All boat designs is a compromise. </p>
<p>Some wants a fast ski boat others a holiday mansion. Some wants both. Its just not practical to tow waterskies after a big catamaran. </p>
<p>When thats said, Its a compromise that takes years to figure out. And when you do, Life has taken a turn and you whant something else, More kids more space, Kids grown and you would like something smaller. You cant plan more than ten years ahead so why bother. </p>
<p>The most important thing for me is. Do i want to built for the next generation ore do i want to build for my self. Do i want to build something that can recoup my money, Ore just something quick and inexpensiv. I do now that it can be beautiful as well. High on my wish list is a big window, Caouse when you sit in your chair and looking out your window, The only boat you can see is the one passing you. </p>
<p>I do love building boats, I just prefer sailing. So its a nobrainer :) Plywood and instant boatbuilding. Se you all out there.</p>
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		By: Michael Storer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Storer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 00:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.storerboatplans.com/boat-design/michael-storer-biography-how-i-got-started/#comment-1812&quot;&gt;Peter Belenky&lt;/a&gt;.

GREAT COMMENTS Peter!

I didn&#039;t really pin it down in the argument ... but those who have seen the arguments know the general drill.

Some say you can choose high performance, low cost or comfort but not all of them or somesuch constructed argument.  Lots of people buy into that and start to think they can have a cheap boat but don&#039;t expect it to sail well.

Or people think that good foils or effective rig set up are wasted on small cruising boats because they &quot;are not expected to go fast&quot; or are &quot;only cruising&quot;.  Most racers know that a nicely shaped centreboard adds about 4 hours to the building time but about 10% to the upwind performance over many years.

So I am not just plugging (selling) my own boats here ... there are some other designers that produce boats that sail really well and also fulfill mundane requirements of not costing too much and sailing really well.

Most of the designers that do this habitually come from small boat racing backgrounds.  Oughtred is one B&#038;B boats are another, but there are a number of others.  Basically I would like consumers to ask the question when someone makes the comment that &quot;all design is a compromise&quot;.

Sheet plywood is my particular take because I am so lazy, but there is no extra cost (except for a strongback) in say Oughtred&#039;s multi planked approach - only some labour.

Perhaps I need to add that to the article above!

Cheers again ... good points.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.storerboatplans.com/boat-design/michael-storer-biography-how-i-got-started/#comment-1812">Peter Belenky</a>.</p>
<p>GREAT COMMENTS Peter!</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really pin it down in the argument &#8230; but those who have seen the arguments know the general drill.</p>
<p>Some say you can choose high performance, low cost or comfort but not all of them or somesuch constructed argument.  Lots of people buy into that and start to think they can have a cheap boat but don&#8217;t expect it to sail well.</p>
<p>Or people think that good foils or effective rig set up are wasted on small cruising boats because they &#8220;are not expected to go fast&#8221; or are &#8220;only cruising&#8221;.  Most racers know that a nicely shaped centreboard adds about 4 hours to the building time but about 10% to the upwind performance over many years.</p>
<p>So I am not just plugging (selling) my own boats here &#8230; there are some other designers that produce boats that sail really well and also fulfill mundane requirements of not costing too much and sailing really well.</p>
<p>Most of the designers that do this habitually come from small boat racing backgrounds.  Oughtred is one B&amp;B boats are another, but there are a number of others.  Basically I would like consumers to ask the question when someone makes the comment that &#8220;all design is a compromise&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sheet plywood is my particular take because I am so lazy, but there is no extra cost (except for a strongback) in say Oughtred&#8217;s multi planked approach &#8211; only some labour.</p>
<p>Perhaps I need to add that to the article above!</p>
<p>Cheers again &#8230; good points.</p>
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		By: Peter Belenky		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article, Michael, but it doesn&#039;t match the title.  You do a fine job of explaining why your boat designs are better compromises for today than similar compromises of 40 or 120 years ago. If one wants quickly built and inexpensive designs that are also light and fast, you show how to save enormous amounts of money by avoiding complex shapes and structures, elaborate hardware and high-tech materials.  If one wants elegant designs that evoke antique traditions, you show that a simple, lug-rigged, plywood skiff can be just as graceful a small yacht as one with 12 lapped planks a side, dozens of frames, and myriads of rivets.

By focusing on elements that yield the greatest benefits for their cost--particularly the shapes of sails and foils--you show how to enjoy the sailing pleasure and one-design competition of advanced dinghies with little sacrifice of speed.  If one wants a safe boat in a gale or one that will accommodate a family on a cruise, however, a different set of compromises will be necessary.  That&#039;s the fun of boat design.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Michael, but it doesn&#8217;t match the title.  You do a fine job of explaining why your boat designs are better compromises for today than similar compromises of 40 or 120 years ago. If one wants quickly built and inexpensive designs that are also light and fast, you show how to save enormous amounts of money by avoiding complex shapes and structures, elaborate hardware and high-tech materials.  If one wants elegant designs that evoke antique traditions, you show that a simple, lug-rigged, plywood skiff can be just as graceful a small yacht as one with 12 lapped planks a side, dozens of frames, and myriads of rivets.</p>
<p>By focusing on elements that yield the greatest benefits for their cost&#8211;particularly the shapes of sails and foils&#8211;you show how to enjoy the sailing pleasure and one-design competition of advanced dinghies with little sacrifice of speed.  If one wants a safe boat in a gale or one that will accommodate a family on a cruise, however, a different set of compromises will be necessary.  That&#8217;s the fun of boat design.</p>
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		By: Paul Atkins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Atkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 22:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article Michael. The GIS is the one of the prettiest ply single chine boats of all time, well done!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Michael. The GIS is the one of the prettiest ply single chine boats of all time, well done!</p>
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