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		By: Michael Storer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.storerboatplans.com/boat-design/lets-talk-about-outriggers-on-canoes-and-sailboats-for-proas-trimarans-and-even-catamarans/#comment-10336&quot;&gt;anthony peter Downs&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Anthony,

One good comparison point for leeway resistance comparison for canted hulls vs centreboards (drop keels) is the Hobie 16. The boat has deep vee hulls that are well immersed. 

But through the years the Hobie sailors have raked (leaned) the rig back to transfer as much load as possible to the deep rudder foils.

&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.storerboatplans.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/Hobie-16-mast-rake.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Hobie 16 mast rake sends load to the rudders for leeway prevention showing that foils are better than hulls for lift.&quot; /&gt;

This indicates the experience of multihull sailors (actually all sailors, no matter whether mono or multi in general that a deep foil centreboard (drop keel) will give much better resistance to leeway than an immersed hull or shoal keel.

In general foil depth trumps hull area in just about every case.


&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/30-Mi-Luft-002-300x170.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;


As far as resistance to flipping in a beam sea a round hull with daggerboard retracted will sideslip more than a deeper vee hull with no centreboard. It is purely about the immersed area which a vee hull has more of. Hull slanting might make some difference but much less than the effect of the pure lateral area presented by the immersed leeward hull.

Best Regards
Michael Storer]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.storerboatplans.com/boat-design/lets-talk-about-outriggers-on-canoes-and-sailboats-for-proas-trimarans-and-even-catamarans/#comment-10336">anthony peter Downs</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Anthony,</p>
<p>One good comparison point for leeway resistance comparison for canted hulls vs centreboards (drop keels) is the Hobie 16. The boat has deep vee hulls that are well immersed. </p>
<p>But through the years the Hobie sailors have raked (leaned) the rig back to transfer as much load as possible to the deep rudder foils.</p>
<p><img src="https://www.storerboatplans.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/Hobie-16-mast-rake.jpg" alt="Hobie 16 mast rake sends load to the rudders for leeway prevention showing that foils are better than hulls for lift." /></p>
<p>This indicates the experience of multihull sailors (actually all sailors, no matter whether mono or multi in general that a deep foil centreboard (drop keel) will give much better resistance to leeway than an immersed hull or shoal keel.</p>
<p>In general foil depth trumps hull area in just about every case.</p>
<p><img src="https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/30-Mi-Luft-002-300x170.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>As far as resistance to flipping in a beam sea a round hull with daggerboard retracted will sideslip more than a deeper vee hull with no centreboard. It is purely about the immersed area which a vee hull has more of. Hull slanting might make some difference but much less than the effect of the pure lateral area presented by the immersed leeward hull.</p>
<p>Best Regards<br />
Michael Storer</p>
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		By: anthony peter Downs		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do slanted Amas  give decreased leeway  instead of drop keels.They may reduce tacking performance?ie stability in a straight line is very good with veed Amas. On larger cats or Tris, slanted amas are considered a safety factor as they allow the vessel to slide sideways  when beam on to large waves, they reduce  RI . resistance to Inertia. May be not as applicable in smaller vessels.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do slanted Amas  give decreased leeway  instead of drop keels.They may reduce tacking performance?ie stability in a straight line is very good with veed Amas. On larger cats or Tris, slanted amas are considered a safety factor as they allow the vessel to slide sideways  when beam on to large waves, they reduce  RI . resistance to Inertia. May be not as applicable in smaller vessels.</p>
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