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		By: Michael Storer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Storer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2024 01:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/#comment-10393&quot;&gt;Lachlan&lt;/a&gt;.

There are two ways of going about it.

One is with the longer outriggers here that stay in the water all the time to add stability.
https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/

The other one is a smaller outrigger on a single crossbeam to give you stability when it touches the water - just to give you enough time to ease the sail.
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/mini-outrigger-stability-canoe/&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;Mini Outriggers Plan for Adding Sailing Canoe Stability&lt;/a&gt;

Best Regards
Michael]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/#comment-10393">Lachlan</a>.</p>
<p>There are two ways of going about it.</p>
<p>One is with the longer outriggers here that stay in the water all the time to add stability.<br />
<a href="https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/" rel="ugc">https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/</a></p>
<p>The other one is a smaller outrigger on a single crossbeam to give you stability when it touches the water &#8211; just to give you enough time to ease the sail.<br />
<a href="https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/mini-outrigger-stability-canoe/" rel="ugc">Mini Outriggers Plan for Adding Sailing Canoe Stability</a></p>
<p>Best Regards<br />
Michael</p>
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		By: Lachlan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lachlan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 14:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi 
Would something like this work on a dagger element 11.3? This is the kayak I already have
I am only concerned about the deck curve, but I might be able to build frame under the arms to accommodate?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Would something like this work on a dagger element 11.3? This is the kayak I already have<br />
I am only concerned about the deck curve, but I might be able to build frame under the arms to accommodate?</p>
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		By: Michael Storer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Storer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/#comment-10208&quot;&gt;Dan&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Dan,

Yes, it has been done. 

There is one about the make its maiden sail in the next week or so on my Storer Boat Plans Facebook Page. Being built by Khiem Tran. It has been on his trailer for about a fortnight waiting for some free time.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/storerboatplans/

Best Regards
Michael]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/#comment-10208">Dan</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Dan,</p>
<p>Yes, it has been done. </p>
<p>There is one about the make its maiden sail in the next week or so on my Storer Boat Plans Facebook Page. Being built by Khiem Tran. It has been on his trailer for about a fortnight waiting for some free time.<br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/storerboatplans/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/groups/storerboatplans/</a></p>
<p>Best Regards<br />
Michael</p>
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		By: Dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 07:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was wondering if these could be used with the Quick Canoe or if anyone has made a sailor out of the Quick Canoe?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if these could be used with the Quick Canoe or if anyone has made a sailor out of the Quick Canoe?</p>
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		By: Michael Storer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Storer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2020 10:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/#comment-10171&quot;&gt;Neil Shipley&lt;/a&gt;.

That sounds fine Neil!

Might have to mess around with the end block widths, but the angle to accommodate the deck will be the same.

Michael.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/#comment-10171">Neil Shipley</a>.</p>
<p>That sounds fine Neil!</p>
<p>Might have to mess around with the end block widths, but the angle to accommodate the deck will be the same.</p>
<p>Michael.</p>
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		By: Neil Shipley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Shipley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2020 13:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Michael.
No I wasn’t planning on altering volume at all, just adjusting the positioning of the beams to allow for more comfortable seating in the Larsboat.
So the additional bulkheads don’t change the arma shape.  They’re positioned to fix the beams onto them. No I’m not anticipating much adjustment. Maybe a foot or so either way.
On second thoughts, think I’ll get a set of plans and once I’ve had  a look send you my idea.
Cheers and thanks
Neil]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael.<br />
No I wasn’t planning on altering volume at all, just adjusting the positioning of the beams to allow for more comfortable seating in the Larsboat.<br />
So the additional bulkheads don’t change the arma shape.  They’re positioned to fix the beams onto them. No I’m not anticipating much adjustment. Maybe a foot or so either way.<br />
On second thoughts, think I’ll get a set of plans and once I’ve had  a look send you my idea.<br />
Cheers and thanks<br />
Neil</p>
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		By: Michael Storer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Storer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2020 05:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/#comment-10159&quot;&gt;Michael Storer&lt;/a&gt;.

What sort of boat are you putting it on Neil, give me some details and I might be able to see a way of working it out.

MIK]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/#comment-10159">Michael Storer</a>.</p>
<p>What sort of boat are you putting it on Neil, give me some details and I might be able to see a way of working it out.</p>
<p>MIK</p>
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		By: Michael Storer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Storer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2020 05:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/#comment-10158&quot;&gt;Neil Shipley&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Neil,

It won&#039;t work. The volume of the outriggers is matched to the strength of the crossbeams. Giving them more volume is exactly the wrong thing to do.

The beams will break. Thats the secret of the engineering - no matter the size of the boat or its sail area (within reason) too much load will sink the outrigger hull and the skipper will have to ease the sail to get it to surface again.

It is a great solution for portability. If the outrigger hull is bigger so it won&#039;t submerge then have to take account the weight of the main hull and rig when it lifts out of the water. And that means that there is a different solution for every vessel. Add a crew member and have to recalculate.

This way the ama volume limits the loads on the crossbeams. It simply sinks when there is too much load.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/#comment-10158">Neil Shipley</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Neil,</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t work. The volume of the outriggers is matched to the strength of the crossbeams. Giving them more volume is exactly the wrong thing to do.</p>
<p>The beams will break. Thats the secret of the engineering &#8211; no matter the size of the boat or its sail area (within reason) too much load will sink the outrigger hull and the skipper will have to ease the sail to get it to surface again.</p>
<p>It is a great solution for portability. If the outrigger hull is bigger so it won&#8217;t submerge then have to take account the weight of the main hull and rig when it lifts out of the water. And that means that there is a different solution for every vessel. Add a crew member and have to recalculate.</p>
<p>This way the ama volume limits the loads on the crossbeams. It simply sinks when there is too much load.</p>
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		By: Neil Shipley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Shipley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2020 14:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Michael.
Sorry called you David who was also around at that time IIRC.
Thanks for the reply.  Was wondering if adding a couple of extra bulkheads and stretching the width between the cross beams to adjust for seating would be ok and if so, how much ‘stretch’ do you think would be the upper limit. i.e.  how wide between the beams might be ok before the ply gives way and the outrigger flexes excessively for say 6mm ply?
Thanks
Neil]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael.<br />
Sorry called you David who was also around at that time IIRC.<br />
Thanks for the reply.  Was wondering if adding a couple of extra bulkheads and stretching the width between the cross beams to adjust for seating would be ok and if so, how much ‘stretch’ do you think would be the upper limit. i.e.  how wide between the beams might be ok before the ply gives way and the outrigger flexes excessively for say 6mm ply?<br />
Thanks<br />
Neil</p>
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		By: Michael Storer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Storer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2020 03:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/#comment-10129&quot;&gt;Neil Shipley&lt;/a&gt;.

I think it would suit the larboat very nicely. Just have to layout the crossbeam positions to match seating positions.

The freeboard of the Larsboat is not large. But for people who buy the outrigger plans there is a flatter curve crossbeam drawing I make available on request. It also has a mast partner built into the front crossbeam and a drawing for making a very basic sail and spars. Could also decide to support the mast with the Larsboat hull through the deck.

Michael]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/drop-in-outriggers-for-canoes-kayaks-some-dinghies-sailing-videos/#comment-10129">Neil Shipley</a>.</p>
<p>I think it would suit the larboat very nicely. Just have to layout the crossbeam positions to match seating positions.</p>
<p>The freeboard of the Larsboat is not large. But for people who buy the outrigger plans there is a flatter curve crossbeam drawing I make available on request. It also has a mast partner built into the front crossbeam and a drawing for making a very basic sail and spars. Could also decide to support the mast with the Larsboat hull through the deck.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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