Hola Javier, (google translate)

Hay algún costo en el plan. También hay un costo en materiales para hacer el bote y comprar una vela. No tengo una solución para tu problema. Estoy diseñando una canoa para navegar y remar. Será más barato que la viola, así que consulte la página principal de mi sitio web. Pondré el nuevo diseño en dos semanas.

Saludos
Michael

Original.

There is some cost in the plan. There is also a cost in materials to make the boat and purchase a sail. I do not have a solution for your problem. I am designing a canoe for sailing and paddling. It will be cheaper than the viola so check the front page of my website. I will be putting the new design up in two weeks.

Nuevamente lo felicito.
Lo saludo respetuosamente.

Javier Gómez (Argentina. Mendoza)

Hi NP,

The weight of yourself and even a larger child will be fine. I didn’t really draw the boat to one “average” adult, but an adult and a half. So an adult and small child will be OK. Two small kids for messing around in a bay.

Joost has taken the boat out in both rough sea and rough lake conditions. Has sailed fine but recommends a self bailer.

He did also capsize and was able to recover on the sea. Before he fitte the bailer.

Cost – maybe 2500 in most developed economies for quality materials. For the lug rig. More for the dinghy rigs because of the amount of additional rigging.

Drop into the facebook group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/storerboatplans/

MIK

Is all of the information about building the mast and boom, and anything else associated with the sail rig contained in the plans you provide?
What would you estimate the overall cost to be for building the whole thing (i guess not including the sail, because I realize that’s third party ..)

Oh, have you ever taken out into the ocean, or large bays? I’d be sailing up in Narragansett Bay, RI, and Long Island Sound in NY primarily, although hoping to try some lakes up north too

…just one more thing .. What do you think about this being able to handle me (about 180 lbs,) and a small boy about 30-40 lbs ?.too small?

Is there a forum where people have posted their builds and experiences?

Howdy,

I checked the centres of efforts. The Laser Radial main centre of effort will be around 100mm behind the Viola sail. So there will be some weather helm. This is not necessarily a deal breaker as I design boats to be very neutral helm – so some extra weather helm will PROBABLY not matter too much.

OK there is enough depth in the Laser mast to allow the vang fitting to be above the deck level. So that is OK

However there are a couple of things to be overcome.
1/ Mast Diameter. Laser is 65. Viola’s mast is 60 so the rig will be heavier making the boat less stable when moving slow or running. Wind pressure is your friend if you are used to skinny boats. At a certain heel angle or rapid heeling the mast may feel that it has taken over and proceed to the horizontal despite corrective action :)
2/ You personally still have the same weight for the taller Laser rig (taller than the Viola rig) – so will have to hold up the Radial rig on a much narrower boat. This might limit the strength of breezes you can go out in unless very comfortable sailing skinny boats.

Both can manage it though Viola has only sailed very occasionally in the last 20 years …. (Joost’s text below)

if you are okay sailing a Laser, you will be fine sailing the Viola 14 canoe. Obviously it is a sporty boat and I capsized 3 times in many outings: once because I simply lost my footing during a gybe and twice in strong winds of Bft 5-6 and very confused seas during a tack (body weight on one side already with the bow suddenly thrown back by a wave).

The last couple of years I have mainly been sailing the Goat Island Skiff (much larger and heavier) and a couple of times our Chickadee scow (smaller in length, but similar in the sense of being a light sporty and fast boat). I immediately felt at “home” in sailing the boat and it did not take long getting the boat completely dialed in really. Viola (my partner) also felt very confident from the start sailing the boat. Viola has sailed Lasers when she was a teenager, but that was 20 years or so ago. It is very stable for the width due to the asymmetrical hull shape with its flat sections aft.

The smaller fathead sail is very manageable and so is the lug sail (this sail is quite a bit larger, but the centre of effort is low). The large fathead sail is more difficult to sail (longer mast, more weight aloft and higher centre of effort).

For lighter persons up to 75-80kg or so, especially when also sailing in stronger winds, the smaller fathead sail I would consider the best option (there is also a one reef in it). Obviously the larger sail provides more power and is a blast to sail if you can handle it. You will need better skills and need to be a heavier sailor though (Viola feels completely overpowered by the rig and the confidence she has sailing with the smaller sail is not there at all when sailing the big rig).

If wanting a more flexible rig in use (ease of reefing, getting the mast down, etc.), the lug rig is a good option.